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Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-11 15:25:00

Donna

Hello:  According to census records in Vermont, USA, Alexander Mathews was born 1817 in Canada.  He likely was raised in Quebec, as it was noted that as an adult he spoke "broken English".  He married first in 1841 to Lavinia Bunker and raised children in several towns in Vermont.  He died there 1896.   We are searching for parents and for the area where he first lived.  [The name of George Levi Mathews has been suggested as Alexander's father.] 

Thank you for your assistance.     D. Beaupre'  

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-11 21:00:00

Yves

On the marriage license of Geo W Mathews, we can see that his father, Alexander Mathews, was born in France.  Here's the link on Family Search :  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99D-QK28?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPQX-ZXFS&action=view&lang=en&groupId=

Yves

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-11 22:29:00

Donna

To Yves:  Our thanks for locating this certificate.  I am thinking that the information given for a marriage license would be more likely correct than that written by a census taker.  And, I see that George W must have edited the license after it was written --- as the extra t in Mathews has been crossed out.   I am helping a woman in NH in her search.  She will be very happy to have this certificate in hand!     

Thank you for your quick response, too.  Much appreciated by me and by her.     Donna

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 08:21:00

Alain

I don t know if you have this information

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9613259/alexander-mathews

He marries Calista Kelly after Lavinia Bunker around 1844

On a public tree his parents are suppose to be Georges Levi Mathews and Christina Mathews

Lavinia probably die in 1845

Alain

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 13:43:00

Donna

Hi Alain:  Thank you for your quick response and information re:  the public tree.  I am helping a woman in NH and she had seen the Georges Levi statement that he was father to Alexander.  However, we have not seen documentation and the printout given to her was "iffy" with strange dates of baptisms before births and burials 20 years after death.  Therefore, we were hoping to find some actual records.  Thank you for answering this query and providing this public tree as a possibility.  We certainly have kept it in the folder for possible future use.     Thank you for your help to me and to her   Donna

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 14:18:00

Alain

I found it too...for Georges Wahington Matthews

In the act of 1911 Georges said it s his third marriage....

Check this link on Find a Grave

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112194770/george_washington-matthews

They talk about the first and the second wife I think....

And they talk about the parents Alex and Lovina

Alain

Nothing about Alexander in Canada....or Quebec...

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 14:47:00

Alain

Georges Washington Matthews marriage with Elisabet (Lizzie) Stoddard  1851-1875 , the 28 Nov 1867 • Warren, Washington, Vermont, USA

https://www.ancestry.ca/imageviewer/collections/4661/images/41599_312383-03649?pId=381393

Second marriage with Cyntia A Douglas the 9 Feb 1876 • Granville, Vermont, USA

https://www.ancestry.ca/imageviewer/collections/4661/images/41269_312878-03052?pId=922132

 

https://www.ancestry.ca/mediaui-viewer/tree/108754936/person/300171739231/media/82be365d-afad-4e7a-aff8-5741010986fd

Alain

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 14:48:00

Alain

And the third marriage was the one who  Yves Give you before

Alain

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 14:56:00

Alain

Marriage of Alexander in 1841

https://www.ancestry.ca/imageviewer/collections/4661/images/41599_312383-03588?pId=381344

No names for the parents....

Alain

Hope you have Ancestry!

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 16:46:00

Alain

Who said the truth...

Where is born Alexander ?????

census 1850 Vermont, census 1860 Vermont, census 1870 Canada,census 1880 Canada

Death of is daughter Amelia in 1912 Canada

Death of Georges Washington Matthews is son France

Marriage of Georges Washington Matthews in 1911 France

N.B. France could be because he speak french....but it s Canada

And for the parent's names Georges Levi Mathews and Christina Mathews absolutely no proof!

Alain

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 17:08:00

Alain

Donna, sorry for my english, I write like Alexander "broken english"blush

Alain

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 17:54:00

Donna

Wow!!!  You have certainly been bussy searching and FINDING all these sites re:  Mathews people.  Thank you so very much.  [I may send this note broken into several replies.  I wrote one before and then lost it, I think, as it does not show up on the list where the others are located.]

Anyway, I am impressed with what you have found in less than a day.  I do NOT have Ancestry, but have used the version in our local library --- which seems quite complete.  I will use the addresses that you sent when we next visit that library.  The wife in my friend's line was Cynthia Douglas.  

I found, as you did, that even his children gave different places for Alex's birth --- France, Canada, Vermont and England.  I think that maybe the person who opened the door to the census takers was the one who answered all the questions --- relative or not.  Will send this before I lose it again.       Thank you for your impressive finds!     Donna

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 18:09:00

Donna

Hi again,     I meant to ask you if Levi is a French name?  I do not know if my friend's family had Georges Levi in their remembrances from the old family stories OR if someone using a more recent genealogy site came up with the name.    She said that her older cousins --- who were searching --- became STUCK after Alex, so I wonder if they even included a G. Levi.

I say "myfriend" although I have never met her.  A mutual friend suggested that if she had trouble searching that she contact me.  She wrote to me a couple of months ago.  That is how I become involved.  I am so impressed that you found so much in 1 DAY.  AND so willing to help.  Thanks again.  And thank you for writing in English.  My high school French [from many years ago] allows me to figure births, marriages and deaths ONLY.      Will now send out this 2nd replay to you.      Donna

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 20:46:00

Marie-Hélène


I found a tree with a possible brother born in Quebec for Alexandre. I don't have access to Ancestry in the United States. Here's the link:

https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/person/tree/58644835/person/40037674532/facts
 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-12 21:14:00

Donna

Hi Marie-Helene,     Thank you for this address which I have copied off.  I do not have Ancestry at home, but our local library has the library version, so I will visit there and check into this site.  Thank you for your help and suggestion.  I am so impressed with the kindness people have shown regarding finding Alexander/Alexandre.  I am assisting a woman in NH whose older cousin had found family information until he got back to Alexander.  Then he was stuck.  So was I. 

I appreciate that you write in English.  My high school French from years way back --- allows me to recognize birth, death and marriage only.   I look forward to pursuing the information on the tree. Thank you again!    Donna

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-13 18:45:00

Alain

Sur votre lien Marie Helene voici un des mariages de Joseph E Matthew, le supposé frere d Alexandre...mais on ne nomme pas les parents...

https://www.ancestry.ca/imageviewer/collections/1091/images/d13p_1653b1271?pId=4595194

Dans l arbre on parle d un premier mariage avec une Maria Gee le 12 May 1830 • St-Valentin, Québec...(pas trouvé )

Sur la fiche on dit souvent,  probable , pas sur....

Est ce bon....????

Alain

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-13 20:36:00

Donna

Hi Alain,      Thank you again for following through with more information trying to find Alexander's family.  I have copied off the ancestry sites which both you and Helene have suggested.  I am hoping to get to our library tomorrow to see if the Ancestry program there will access Canadian Ancestry and the sites you have sent to me..

Meanwhile, having the first name --- Joseph E --- as a possible brother is good.  So many families in Quebec have Josephs AND --- supposedly, according to family stories, Alexander was the father of twin boys born early 1840s.  They were named Joseph and Ellsworth.  [Ellsworth sounds more English].

When your message came through it was all in French, so I looked into the French dictionary.  Later I clicked on the word English up in the right hand corner --- and the whole message changed to English.  MAGIC!

Hope that wherever you live you also experienced the beautiful spring day that we had today --- from morning 'til night.  Thank you for your continuing help.        Donna

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-13 22:10:00

Marie-Hélène

I checked the records for Joseph's first marriage. In fact, the couple is listed in the PRDH, but it's not Matthews but MATHON. We have the baptisms of all four children in Drummonville. Joseph's parents were Pierre Mathon and Marguerite Gendron. Maria Gee, born on April 10, 1813, was baptized on August 20, 1837, in Drummonville, and her parents were Solomon Gee and Mary Wadleigh

I don't have the marriage and the first child was baptized at 13 months, so he could have been born in the United States, but it is not specified in the certificate.

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-14 09:36:00

Alain

Bonjour Marie Helene sur l 'arbre de Joseph E Mathew tout correspond au PRDH sauf le nom de la seconde épouse 

Les mêmes enfants qu'au PRDH...

Sauf qu'au PRDH on dit que son épouse est Marie Louise Deshaie St Cyr, mariage le 27 nov 1838 alors que sur l arbre on parle de Mary Ruth Hamel 1810-1900....mariage 14 mai 1838 Bourg-Louis, Portneuf, Quebec, Canada.

Et il ne faut pas oublier que sur l arbre on dit que Alexandre est probablement son frère. ...

Il n y a aucun document confirmant qu ils sont des frères

Alain 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-14 17:37:00

Donna

I was able to visit our local library this morning, but was UNABLE to access the Canadian version of Ancestry.  However, I did find info re:  Pierre Mathon.  If Pierre is Joseph E 's father then Joseph's mother is Margurerite Gendron.  IF Joseph and Alexandre are brothers, then Alex's mother would be M-Anna Richer who married Pierre 1811.  Sadly, the few sites I could access stated that her children all died young, and no Alex was listed as her child.

We had not searched Mathon before.  I had tried 2 other versions =  Mathieu, Matthes.   

The Joseph born 1807 Canada East and died 1886 Westport NY at son's Culbert's home makes sense to me because 4 children born to his 2nd wife Mary Ruth Hamel were born in VT in towns where Alexander also lived:  Mt Holly, VT, and Warren, VT.  As you see,I am grabbing any clue I can find.

Thank you for your searches and input.  I do appreciate the records that you find.     Donna

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-14 17:47:00

Donna

Alain,     I was able to visit our local library this morning.  I went over before finding your post today.  The Ancestry program there did not allow me to access the Canadian version.  However, I did find the public trees which included Joseph, born 1807 and married 1st to Marie Gee and then 2nd to Mary Ruth Hamel.  Mary Ruth's children were born in VT towns where Alexander also lived.   That seems like a clue.

The father of 1807 Joseph was stated as either Georges Levi or Joseph or unknown.   

I do thank  you for your following these posts and making suggestions and citing records.  I translated your note via the google tranlation site.  So easy to use.      Thanks.  Donna 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-19 13:05:00

Aline

Bonjour,

Le mariage de Joseph Mathon et Maria McGee est maintenant sur le site, sans date.

Maria Gee était protestante. Elle a abjuré sa religion en 1837 pour le catholicisme. Alors un possible mariage au Québec à chercher dans les registres protestants.

Quatre enfants nés au Qc. ( Joseph 1831, Elisabeth 1832, Royal-Henry 1832-1835 et Marie-Paule 1837). Les délais des baptêmes s'expliqueraient par le fait que les protestants, contrairement aux catholiques, ne ressentent pas d'urgence à baptiser les enfants.

Joseph Mathon s'est remarié avec Marie-Louise Deshaies en 1838. Le mariage est également sur le site.

Deux enfants nés au Qc et 1 aux USA. (Émilie 1839, Cuthbert 1841, Frederick vers 1844)

Voici les recensements américains de 1850, 1855 et 1860 Westport, NY.

US Census 1850 Westport, NY

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DCP3-JKN?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMCYZ-H6F&action=view&cc=1401638&lang=fr&groupId=TH-267-11093-96751-80

US Census 1855 Westport, NY

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GBPT-Q6?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AK6Q6-WC6&action=view&cc=1937366&lang=fr&groupId=TH-1951-25916-0-51

US Census 1860 Westport, NY

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GBSW-47L?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMCW5-H9W&action=view&cc=1473181&lang=fr&groupId=TH-1942-25266-5710-91

On y voit les différents enfants de Maria Gee et de Marie-Louise Deshaies.

Marie-Louise Dehaies serait décédée entre les recensements de 1855 et 1860 et Joseph se serait remarié avec Ruth Hamel qui apparaît d'ailleurs au recensement de 1860.  Ce qui pourrait expliquer l'imbroglio des mariages. Étant donné son âge, il n'y aura pas d'enfant de ce mariage.

Je continue mes recherches.

Bonne journée à tous.

Aline
 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-19 23:22:00

Marie-Hélène

I reread my notes and double-checked some details.

There is indeed a child named Alexis born from the marriage of Pierre Mathon and Anne Richer in 1821. The PRDH records neither marriage nor death in Quebec. I believe this could be the one we're looking for. Mathon's first ancestor came from France.

Baptême Alexis Mathon :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-D491

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-20 11:02:00

Alain

Bonjour Aline j ai inscrit 4 enfants de Joseph Mathon Matton et Maria Gee , Guy Mcgee je cherche les infos sur le 3 autres

Comme Marie Hélène a dit ils sont passés de Mathon A Mathews confirmé  par recensement de 1850

Alain

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-20 19:25:00

Alain
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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-20 20:21:00

Donna

To Marie-Helene, Alain, Aline      I remain so impressed by both your kindness in searching [for me] for Alexander and for sharing  the information about his probable brother Joseph and family.  You have introduced me to sites I had not know about.  So, thank you all very much. 

Does anyone have an idea why the father Pierre is listed as ROCK Mathon on the nosorigines Mathon tree?  Is it a religioous nickname for Pierre --- Peter the Rock?       Again, thank you all three!       Donna

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-22 10:20:00

Alain

Where have you see this information about Pierre Rock Mathews on Nos Origines..

La seule chose que je peux voir c est qu on a traduit Pierre du français a l anglais

Alain

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-22 10:20:00

Alain

Where have you see this information about Pierre Rock Mathews on Nos Origines..

La seule chose que je peux voir c est qu on a traduit Pierre du français a l anglais

Alain

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-22 17:31:00

Donna

Hello Alain,  I cannot duplicate the search this afternoon.  It likely was, as you say, I was probably searching in the English mode.  However, right now I am allowed ONLY to search in Francais for some reason. 

Rock showed up in the green left hand box and showed the exact information that is always printed when Pierre actually is written in that green box.   The word Rock does NOT ever work in any actual search using that as a first name.  I must have been searching the father Augustin's name --- for Rock to appear in the green box.

Thanks again for your following up on my questions.  I do appreciate everyone's  input!      Donna 

 

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RE: Alexander Mathews
Date: 2025-05-25 16:13:00

Alain

First marriage of Georges Mathews with Lizzie Stodard

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQ6-45W9?lang=fr

Alain 

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